Comments on: Bob Ball’s Empty Promise http://old.furiousnads.com/2007/04/bob-balls-empty-promise/ You're furious. I never taught you to sing. You carry rocks in your head and pitch them. Without warning. Happy drunk. You're furious. I beg you for sin. I beg your skin. You buy a whore. Don't give her water. You're furious. Fri, 02 May 2008 14:41:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: b!X http://old.furiousnads.com/2007/04/bob-balls-empty-promise/#comment-418 b!X Sat, 07 Apr 2007 16:58:53 +0000 http://furiousnads.com/2007/04/bob-balls-empty-promise/#comment-418 <em>After that, it seems like the Commission plans to ask the voters to change the Charter to allow the Commission to make "updates" without even referring them?</em> Yeah, I don't agree that this is suggested there. After that, it seems like the Commission plans to ask the voters to change the Charter to allow the Commission to make “updates” without even referring them?

Yeah, I don’t agree that this is suggested there.

]]> By: Chris Smith http://old.furiousnads.com/2007/04/bob-balls-empty-promise/#comment-417 Chris Smith Sat, 07 Apr 2007 16:45:32 +0000 http://furiousnads.com/2007/04/bob-balls-empty-promise/#comment-417 I believe Bob's words (at the Mercury Forum) were "it's right in the ordinance." At least, that's my memory. But it begs the 'so what' question. He got his recommendations on the ballot. What's he complaining about? I believe Bob’s words (at the Mercury Forum) were “it’s right in the ordinance.” At least, that’s my memory.

But it begs the ‘so what’ question. He got his recommendations on the ballot. What’s he complaining about?

]]> By: Amanda Fritz http://old.furiousnads.com/2007/04/bob-balls-empty-promise/#comment-416 Amanda Fritz Sat, 07 Apr 2007 16:25:29 +0000 http://furiousnads.com/2007/04/bob-balls-empty-promise/#comment-416 I also recall Bob Ball saying there was a specific promise to refer the Commission's recommendations. I remember him saying "in the second paragraph of the resolution". There is no such promise anywhere in the Resolution. Thanks for linking to the Resolution, b!X. The paragraph on future Charter Commissions is downright scary: <em>"WHEREAS, changes to the City of Portland’s Charter can only be made by the electorate through a ballot measure referred by the City Council, or through a citizen-led ballot initiative, which may prevent needed changes and updates that could be made through regular review by an established Charter Commission"</em>. So apparently, Measure 26-89 to create an ongoing Charter Review Commission with the power to send changes to the voters without approval of City Council, is just a first step. After that, it seems like the Commission plans to ask the voters to change the Charter to allow the Commission to make "updates" without even referring them? I also recall Bob Ball saying there was a specific promise to refer the Commission’s recommendations. I remember him saying “in the second paragraph of the resolution”. There is no such promise anywhere in the Resolution.

Thanks for linking to the Resolution, b!X. The paragraph on future Charter Commissions is downright scary: “WHEREAS, changes to the City of Portland’s Charter can only be made by the electorate through a ballot measure referred by the City Council, or through a citizen-led ballot initiative, which may prevent needed changes and updates that could be made through regular review by an established Charter Commission”. So apparently, Measure 26-89 to create an ongoing Charter Review Commission with the power to send changes to the voters without approval of City Council, is just a first step. After that, it seems like the Commission plans to ask the voters to change the Charter to allow the Commission to make “updates” without even referring them?

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